There are a few exchanges which took place on Wednesday
before former Special Counsel Robert Mueller and two congressional committees
which are emblematic of the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016
presidential election. They include the following:
It seems from the testimony above that it would have taken too darned long for the Special Counsel's office to obtain a subpoena to ascertain the truth in the most important investigation of a President in United States history.
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MUELLER: I was going to say, the expectation was, if we did
subpoena the president, he would fight the subpoena and we would be in the
midst of the investigation for a substantial period of time.
MALONEY: Right, but as we sit here, you’ve never had an opportunity
to ask the president, in person, questions under oath, and so obviously that
must have been a difficult decision. And you’re right, appendix C lays that
out, and indeed, I believe you describe the in-person interview as vital.
That’s you word.
And of course, you make clear, you had the authority and the
legal justification to do it, as you point out. You waited a year, you put up
with a lot of negotiations, you made numerous accommodations, which you lay
out, so that he could prepare and not be surprised. I take it you were trying
to be fair to the president. And, by the way, you were going to limit the
questions, when you got to written question, to Russia only.
And, in fact, you did go with written questions after about
nine months, sir, right? And the president responded to those and you have some
hard language for what you thought of those responses. What did you think of
the president’s written responses Mr. Mueller?
MUELLER: It was certainly not as useful as the interview
would be.
MALONEY: In fact -- in fact, you pointed out, and by my
count, there were more than 30 times when the president said he didn’t recall,
he didn’t remember, no independent recollection, no current recollection and I
take it by your answer that it wasn’t as helpful, that’s why you used words
like incomplete, imprecise, inadequate, insufficient. Is that a fair summary of
what you thought of those written answers?
MUELLER: That is a fair summary. And I presume that comes
from the report.
Mueller "put up with a lot of negotiations" and
made "numerous accommodations," yet did not issue a subpoena.
However, it's easy to miss the red flag when Democrats spent yesterday (and the prior two years) touting the
personal and professional resume of the ex-Marine. Continuing:
MALONEY: And yet, sir, and I ask this respectfully -- by the
way, the president didn’t ever claim the Fifth Amendment, did he?
MUELLER: I’m not going to talk to that.
Mueller wouldn't talk about that because Mueller spent the
day refusing to answer questions, over 200 times in all. Please continue,
Representative Maloney:
MALONEY: Well I -- from what I can tell sir, at one point it
was vital and then at another point it wasn’t vital. And my question to you is,
why did it stop being vital, and I can only think of three explanations. One
is, that somebody told you couldn’t do it, but nobody told you couldn’t
subpoena the president, is that right?
MUELLER: No, we understood we could subpoena the president.
MALONEY: Rosenstein didn’t tell you, Whitaker didn’t tell
you, Barr didn’t tell you, you couldn’t ...
MUELLER: We could serve a subpoena.
Of course, Mueller could serve a subpoena. Neither the Attorney
General nor the Assistant Attorney General stood by the employee, waiting to
snatch out of his hands any subpoena he might obtain. However, in the same manner, you could walk into your
boss' office tomorrow, call him or her a bumbling fool and even accuse the
latter of having an affair with your spouse. You could, and you'd be fired. Mueller did not have to be explicitly told. Barr did not explicitly prohibit a subpoena, thus the
congressman continued:
MALONEY: So, the only other explanation -- well, there’s two
others I guess, one, that you just flinched. That you had the opportunity to do
it and you didn’t do it. But sir, you don’t strike me as the kind of guy who
flinches.
MUELLER: I’d hope not.
If ever there were an investigation which featured flinching
as its animating characteristic, this was it. Nevertheless
MALONEY: Well then the third explanation -- I hope not too
sir. And the third explanation I can think of is that -- is that you didn’t
think you needed it. And in fact, what caught my eye was page 13 in volume 2,
where you said, in fact, you had a substantial body of evidence and you sight a
bunch of cases there don’t you, about how you often have to prove intent to
obstruct justice without an in-person interview, that’s the kind of nature of
it, and you used terms like a substantial body of evidence, significant
evidence of the president’s intent.
So, my question sir is, did you have sufficient evidence of
the president’s intent to obstruct justice and is that why you didn’t do the
interview.
Robert Mueller pointedly refused in his report to state that
the President attempted to commit obstruction of justice or any other crime.
Yet he did not interview Trump because, we are to believe, he had sufficient
evidence of the President's intent to obstruct justice. This makes a great deal
of sense, in some alternate universe.
MUELLER: No, there’s a balance. In other words, how much
evidence you have that would satisfy the last element, against how much time
are you willing to spend in the courts litigating a -- the -- interviewing the
president?
MALONEY: In this case, you felt that you had enough evidence
of the president’s intent?
MUELLER: We had to make a balanced decision in terms of how
much evidence we had, compared to length of time it would take...
It seems from the testimony above that it would have taken too darned long for the Special Counsel's office to obtain a subpoena to ascertain the truth in the most important investigation of a President in United States history.
It would have taken a minimum of time for the
Special Counsel to request a subpoena and the Office of the President to tell
said lawyer to go suck an egg. Mueller then would have had additional evidence of obstruction of justice while the American people would have more clearly understood that the President was not cooperating with the investigation and had much to hide. But,
"the length of time it would take."
There are several possible reasons that no subpoena for a
personal interview was pursued with the guy who said "Russia, if you're
listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."
Both Mueller's report and testimony elicited Wednesday
established that President Trump asked White House Counsel Don McGhan to fire
the Special Counsel, then asked him to create a false report to cover it
up. Moreover, there was widespread and intense
speculation during most of the investigation that the President either would have fired Mueller (directly or indirectly) or replaced Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein with someone who would do so.
Given that neither the Special Counsel nor his staff was
hermetically sealed, walled off from all news media and gossip surrounding the
investigation, it is virtually certain that Robert Mueller understood throughout that his
days might be numbered. It was widely- including, probably, by Trump's personal
attorneys- that the President could not make it through an interview without
telling a whopper or two or three, thereby obviously committing perjury.
Obtaining a subpoena mandating the President's appearance
would have set the President off. TheRubicon would have been crossed and Special Counsel Mueller fired.
All that work he and his staff had done, Mueller realized,
would have gone for naught. Except, of course, that it wouldn't have, inasmuch
as even Nancy Pelosi at that point probably would have realized that
impeachment proceedings were inevitable.
Whatever would have transpired in the Senate, a President of
the United States of America would have been impeached. The loyal and decorated
Marine would have let his Commander-in-Chief (not constitutionally,
but still) down. And maybe that is what
Robert Mueller has been trying to avoid all along.
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